Is there a SIMPLE howto for basic systemd tweaking such as changing targets?
I've got a new Sabayon install and systemd is driving me nutz. I don't want
to master it's operation. But I need to know how to do a couple of things that I can't quite get from the man pages. First, I boot to console, and then use startx if and when I'm ready for the gui. I always used to be able to do that simply by including the nox kernel option in my grub menu. But with this new system I had to remove the display manager completely to get a seemingly clean console boot... Though just before it puts login prompts on the tty(s) it says the graphical target has been reached... It's been suggested that I change the default target to from graphical.target to multi-user.target... But they want me to read the documentation to see how. But it's like having to study a manual on how to assemble a custom built car from scratch in order to find out where the windshield wiper controls are and which reservoir gets windshield washer fluid rather than brake fluid... I'd like to know how to change that target. And if there is a setting that's messing with my ability to use rc-update to get the gpm service running I could use that too. And finally in case they stop letting me use the udev rule that some nice programmer helped me to compose a few years ago to let my non-root user actually own my data partitions so that I don't have to use root tools for ONLY my user { and of course root ;) } to be able to mount and unmount them at will, I could use a clue how to do that with systemd methods. |
The best you can do is to get rid of this Poetterix crap. I've tested it on Arch Linux and uninstalled it at once. When they forced it onto everybody and made that the default and the only available init system, I switched to Salix OS. And now I'm back to Gentoo, but for other reasons, Salix OS still doesn't use Poetterix.
And I will try eudev soon to completely get rid of Poetterix. See the very long discussions on arch-general and other mailing lists. If I recall correctly it was discussed here, too. Btw., a small hint for Gentoo: echo 'INSTALL_MASK="/usr/lib/systemd"' >> /etc/portage/make.conf |
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If you mean flush systemd then after looking at the man documents, I'm inclined to agree that it {expletive deleted} stinks. And if I only ran one or even just two distros, I might get good enough with one of them to fight the devs hard enough to never get stuck with systemd. But I run several. And all of them seem to be thinking of dumping systemV in favor of systemd. And for the most part I don't care {I don't care whether the machanics want a carburator or an injection system under the hood of my car either. Just as long as they don't make me take a college course just to find out how read the user manual well enough to do a basic tuneup...} Since you tested this crap, perhaps you could explain in simple language how one changes the default target to multi-user.target??? {how? & where?) Thanks in advance... |
Setting the target in systemd works with symlinks. This should do the job:
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rm /etc/systemd/system/default.target |
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That's why his crap is also called Poetterix. Quote:
And if I meanwhile need to set a symlink to /dev/null in /etc/udev/rules.d to deactivate a udev rule and to not always having it reactivated, then it's just hopeless. And if I see such directory trees like /usr/lib/system/systemd/systemd/service/... then there's no hope, too. I really don't understand why all those distributors switch to this systemd crap. Well, I understand that Fedora resp. Redhat is doing it, because Lennart Poettering is on their payroll. But on the other hand I don't understand how one can hire such an - I'd better don't say that. But regarding the target issue, try it with some symlinking in some of those above mentioned directories. Lennart Poettering seems to only know symlinks, but no configuration files, they totally don't exist in systemd. |
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But that's the typical reaction of those systemd fanboys. Not that I want to call you personally a fanboy. They always ask for technical reasons, and when giving them they say that those reasons are not technical, and if asked themselves to give technical reasons which speak for systemd they won't give any, but insult the critics. So that's the typical behaviour. So, to fix systemd and pulseaudio issues, get rid of both. You won't get a real fix by upstream. |
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Now let's get back to the topic, if you want to discuss this any further feel free to contact me via PM or mail. |
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If you have issues with pulseaudio the bug report is most likely closed as invalid or as fixed with a very dirty workaround which cripples down a professional audio card to a soundblaster like stereo card with some ominous ALSA config, and ALSA is blamed for this bug. The same for systemd and the kernel devs. And systemd and pulseaudio is broken by design, which Debian is not. And the systemd and pulseaudio developers are just ignorant, arrogant and tend to insult their critics, even in the systemd documentation (my personal experiences). Debian devs aren't ignorant, arrogant and don't insult their critics (also my personal experiences). That are the important differences. |
What part of "Now let's get back to the topic, if you want to discuss this any further feel free to contact me via PM or mail." did you not understand?
Remember, the questions in this thread are clearly laid out in the first post, and none of them is "What is your opinion on systemd or Lennart Poettering?". |
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You don't want to discuss this, don't do it. And if I am asked about the reasons, why I suggest what I suggest, then I explain them. If you think this is my opinion on systemd or Lennart Poettering, it's your problem. What I've written is my experience. And once again, the techincally best and easiest solution to the original question is to get rid of systemd. |
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The OPs basic question was "how can I?" to which a fellow LQ member replied correctly with how to symlink targets. Your rant was off topic. Please don't do that again. Now keep this thread on topic. End of discussion*. *I am this forums moderator so thread carefully. |
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Btw., this is exactly the typical behaviour of all of those systemd fanboys. Just typical. Think about that, too. |
Final warning.
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Once again: It's ONLY YOU who makes this noise. Just don't ask me anything or provoke me, and you won't have any problem. I'm repeating myself. It's just your very own problem, if you can't bear answers you don't like and different opinions and experiences. |
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