Hibernate one distro, de-hibernate another

Ulysses_ · 12-27-2010, 09:46 AM

Is it possible to have two linux distros installed on a pc and to switch between them using a script that automatically hibernates one distro and de-hibernates the other?

Can this work without any of the reboot phases occurring at all?

Can this exclude unused memory so the hibernation files are smaller than the 2 GB of memory a pc might have and therefore faster to read or write?

business_kid · 12-27-2010, 02:05 PM

No. all the drives come up hung in the wrong places, and it reboots. It's silly if it doesn't.
There are things you can do to speed up the boot process, like initng instead of syslog.

jefro · 12-27-2010, 02:11 PM

Hibernate is getting really intertwined with bios.

I doubt you would be able to select but you can try.

I use virtual machines for this sort of reason. They are just too fast and stable and easy now not to. Just a supported system and some extra ram and let it rip.

Ulysses_ · 12-27-2010, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by business_kid

No. all the drives come up hung in the wrong places, and it reboots. It's silly if it doesn't.

I was hoping it can be done with a script or other executable. Are you saying it cannot be done manually either? Can't delete the hibernation file and put another one in its place?

Ulysses_ · 12-27-2010, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jefro

I use virtual machines for this sort of reason. They are just too fast and stable and easy now not to. Just a supported system and some extra ram and let it rip.

Using VMs too. Considering switching between different hosts on the fly, because I need both hosts - one host is secure and leaves a lot of memory for VMs, the other is feature rich with many paid-for apps installed. But reboot is too slow and you lose anything that was open so this hibernate thing, if only it could be used to switch between operating systems.

frieza · 12-27-2010, 03:15 PM

no i seriously doubt that since if i'm not mistaken hibernate saves the state of memory and programs to hard drive, then sets the hardware into power save mode, but this is done in bios, not the OS

i would agree that virtualization of some form is what you need, perhaps a Hypervisor in specific is what you need

Ulysses_ · 12-27-2010, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by frieza

i would agree that virtualization of some form is what you need, perhaps a Hypervisor in specific is what you need

That's the thing, except hosts (see #5) cannot be virtualized and even if they could, such nested virtualization would be too slow.

catkin · 12-27-2010, 09:50 PM

If you configured a different swap partition for each OS then yes it should work using the usual multiboot mechanisms -- GRUB, lilo etc. For 100% robustness you need a "swap" partition for each OS only used for hibernating in addidition to the one for swapping.

I don't understand how a script can/needs to be used except for any of the resume "patch up" work that might be required for a single OS.

Ulysses_ · 12-28-2010, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by catkin

I don't understand how a script can/needs to be used except for any of the resume "patch up" work that might be required for a single OS.

What sort of patch up did you have in mind?

Ideally I'd like to press a button and a minute later to be working with the other distro from where I was the previous time. The script might do the grub equivalent of selecting another active partition.