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Slackware 15.0 has support for systems running UEFI firmware (x86_64 Slackware
edition only). Packages that help support UEFI include elilo, GRUB 2, and
efibootmgr, and all of the installation media supports booting under UEFI, as
do the USB boot sticks generated during installation. At this point there is
no support for running the system under Secure Boot, but a dedicated user
could add their own Machine Owner Key, sign their kernels, modules, and
bootloader, and then use shim to start the bootloader. We'll be looking into
supporting this officially in the next release. Documentation for installing
on UEFI machines is provided in a README_UEFI.TXT found in the top-level
Slackware directory.
As someone who has used XFCE for years, I think Slackware should ditch XFCE in favour of the Mate Desktop. Mate gets rid of that irredeemably sucky XFCE desktop, but keeps everything an XFCE user is used to. Mate is also free of the "Menus of Menus of Submenus" type of bloat that bedevils kde & gnome, and free of homegrown apps set up in the menu whether you installed them or not.
The work involved is trivial as you already have a Mate spin in the liveslak current.
Last edited by business_kid; 02-28-2022 at 08:50 AM.
As someone who has used XFCE for years, I think Slackware should ditch XFCE in favour of the Mate Desktop. Mate gets rid of that irredeemably sucky XFCE desktop, but keeps everything an XFCE user is used to. Mate is also free of the "Menus of Menus of Submenus" type of bloat that bedevils kde & gnome, and free of homegrown apps set up in the menu whether you installed them or not.
The work involved is trivial as you already have a Mate spin in the liveslak current.
That decision will be primarily Patrick's to make, but seeing how Xfce is one of the most flexible and lightweight desktops that integrates well with other desktop environment tools and services and is one of the most commonly used DEs across various distributions, which actually goes back to Xfce's original intention, which was to be a replacement for the Motif based CDE used by various UNIX systems, I honestly can say, I doubt it will be going away any time soon. Plus it's also one of the lightest weight DEs that behaves with Virtual Machines that doesn't require Wayland, 3D graphics acceleration, or significant resources to run. It just works.
That decision will be primarily Patrick's to make, but seeing how Xfce is one of the most flexible and lightweight desktops that integrates well with other desktop environment tools and services and is one of the most commonly used DEs across various distributions, which actually goes back to Xfce's original intention, which was to be a replacement for the Motif based CDE used by various UNIX systems…
Agreed. I'm just suggesting that Mate sucks less, and is otherwise XFCE. If not replace, perhaps add the mate desktop which is only 1 or 2 packages which are already made. While I'm making suggestions that won't be acted on, let me add 2
A Word processor
VLC - which has topped LQ's annual lists forever.
Candidates for ejection might be
Compilers/debuggers for less used languages (e.g. fortran, ada) - in the popularity stakes, they lose.
Seamonkey - popularity.
All 1990s pci bus video card drivers which more proper belong in antique collections.
All little used exotic TTF fonts which should be farmed out to somebody's repo.
All fixed width fonts along with anything using them (e.g. xine).
All support for obsolete or nearly obsolete internet protocols (irc, jabber, etc).
All "Look clever in ascii" utilities. Wasting dvd space.
Compilers/debuggers for less used languages (e.g. fortran, ada) - in the popularity stakes, they lose.
Seamonkey - popularity.
All 1990s pci bus video card drivers which more proper belong in antique collections.
All little used exotic TTF fonts which should be farmed out to somebody's repo.
All fixed width fonts along with anything using them (e.g. xine).
All support for obsolete or nearly obsolete internet protocols (irc, jabber, etc).
All "Look clever in ascii" utilities. Wasting dvd space.
I guess it will not happen for VLC, top rated for pattent problematic integration Pat cannot do.
For the word processor, I would surely like... But we have Calligra. And Alien Bob 's (core team developper) LibreOffice wich would be a big burden for our BDFL.
Candidates for ejection are of your taste. I guess you could make a tagfile, a blacklist, ect, and go with small bootable USB an repo to your installs if needed. And please no drop of IRC and Jabber.
Agreed. I'm just suggesting that Mate sucks less, and is otherwise XFCE. If not replace, perhaps add the mate desktop which is only 1 or 2 packages which are already made.
Seems Pat has no intention on adding Mate to Slackware.
A few posts later, willysr states why he believes it's better to keep Mate out of the core distro.
Quote:
Originally Posted by willysr
Also, by not including it in the official repository, i can support newer version of MATE whenever a new release is released without waiting for next Slackware to get released. In 1 Slackware release, we could support up to 3-4 MATE releases
Agreed. I'm just suggesting that Mate sucks less, and is otherwise XFCE. If not replace, perhaps add the mate desktop which is only 1 or 2 packages which are already made. While I'm making suggestions that won't be acted on, let me add 2
A Word processor
VLC - which has topped LQ's annual lists forever.
Candidates for ejection might be
Compilers/debuggers for less used languages (e.g. fortran, ada) - in the popularity stakes, they lose.
Seamonkey - popularity.
All 1990s pci bus video card drivers which more proper belong in antique collections.
All little used exotic TTF fonts which should be farmed out to somebody's repo.
All fixed width fonts along with anything using them (e.g. xine).
All support for obsolete or nearly obsolete internet protocols (irc, jabber, etc).
All "Look clever in ascii" utilities. Wasting dvd space.
I think thats a decent list. Sadly I still use irc and jabber. Lots of linux and opensource projects have their own irc channels where developers hang out. Seamonkey is very snappy over a remote X session compared to most other browsers (good in semi-emergency situations). I'd rather Pat keep this stuff in, even though ultimately we can just add them back in via slackbuilds etc. But just adding my 2c as someone who apparently lives deep in the computing past.
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